Episode 27: And the Golden Grimgor nominees are …

Good news everyone! Hollywood isn’t the only one who can do silly award ceremonies, we’re right there too! So in this episode, we improvise the nominations for the Winvasion Academy Awards.

We also talk about pigs, breast milk, and fascinating aspects of Warhammer fluff.

So, tune in for the WAAghs. Or the breast milk. Your choice.



It really doesn’t get more darkelfy than this.

11 thoughts on “Episode 27: And the Golden Grimgor nominees are …

  1. Gnomeschool

    What I would have nominated
    Protect the Empire (“Did I tell you this guy from my quest can defend my empty kingdom? Oh, I’m sorry.”)
    Reclaim the Hold (Boring… but others are too.)
    Summon the Reserves (Once played it in a Korhil deck – was really fun!)
    WOLVES OF THE NORTH! (SO many cool possibilities!)
    Gathering the Horde (Once build a deck around it with mushroom hunter, advanced engineering and Roving Goblins. Of course it was a piece of crap. But I liked the random factor in it. “Well, this one token could give me a Grimgor now. Or maybe nothing.”)
    Capture Slaves. (A friend used to play it. He ALWAYS managed to fulfil it in first attack and ALWAYS get out some big unit. Still hate Dark Elves for that. Epic quest though. “See, I’ve got your second Sorcerer of Tzeentch. One left for you, though.”)

    So, because none of these is nominated I’ll go for… REPAIR THE WAYSTONES.
    Because it’s a total crap. What reminds me of Gathering the Horde.

  2. Gnomeschool

    Seems like I posted on wrong article.

    I may did misunderstand you Daniel, but (sadly!) Wurrzag is not a goblin. I thought so for a long time, until we realized it does not have the goblin trait.*

    But most important thing to say, most surprising thing to comment: Daniel, NO Caught the Scent? Can’t believe it. That’s what I defintely would have put my money on.

    Which does not say much. Ever tried to kill a Goblin Raider and a Spider Rider with a Wasting Disease? Neither the spider riding goblins are goblins – nor the wolf riding goblins are cavalry.

  3. sammann11

    Agree with Gnomeschool on “Caught the Scent”

    I also thought that “Soul Stealer” woud’ve made a best support nom.

    As dwarfs are my favorite I must cry outrage at the snub done by the academy: Favorite support is Blood Vengence and favorite unit is Serpent Slayer!

    I liked the idea of the awards, though.

    and breastmilk off the internet – no bueno!

  4. ArgusDeadeye

    Mr. Daniel,

    as right as you might be with your assumption of the average orc being not a British nobleman, they indeed speak English (or at least some kind of English), resulting in their notorious warcry “WAAAAAAAGH!” sounding phonetlically like “WOOOOOOOAAH”.

    Anybody who wants to hear for hisself just take a look at Dawn of War, licensed by GW:


    Of course there are people (by people meaning orcs, warhammer nerds and other strange life forms) who spell it “WAAAAAAAK”. Being the laissez-faire race they are, orcs seem to be very tolerant to different spelling forms. AS LONG AS IT’S LOOOOOOOOOOUD!

    1. Daniel

      Here are some more orcs from the same series yelling the same word, might sound the same, might not: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-No10GDSHTs
      “Woah” still sounds like a British person yelling “War!”, and that spelling is dangerously close to a variation of “Whoa” a la Bill and Ted. Without the gutteral-sound of the orc voice samples it sounds ridiculous, almost operatic. I don’t think it’s rooted in a real word, I think it’s just a loud noise (as you imply is the correct volume when invoking a waaaaargh.) WAAAAA- or WOOOOOO- are both variations on a nonsense yell.

      I take your point that there is general acceptance of all yells since detail-oriented orcs don’t exist. Anecdotally, I have heard people in Canadian accented settings say this word in a normal tone of voice as “Wa”. I would say scaling that up is how you get “WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH” which, when I say it, is not “WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” (I am picturing the guy at around 30 seconds of this video making that noise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu51vkm0SuQ)

      But now that I have gone to extreme depths, I think the difference we perceive is rooted in the American/British difference in the pronounciation of this name: Evelyn Waugh
      American: (with a bunch of extraneous bullshit in the video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBMeEZ4hc38
      British: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTzy1u1U-O4

      As in all linguistic debates, side with (North) American over British. Otherwise you’ll start sounding like a small child, calling trucks “lorries” and referring to cigarettes in a completely inappropriate fashion.

      1. ArgusDeadeye

        I find it’s very interesting how a single word that was most probably made up by some British GW-guys back in the day when they were still a little company founded in a garage by some fantasy-fans became alive like “real” language is.

        But if it should come the day to take a side I’ll continue the German way of inventing new words for things already named. Even today we are able to confuse the English speaking world by talking about the newest “handy”. Maybe a German version of WAAAAGH/WAAAKH/WOOOOAH is the next step in our way of bringing further confusion into the world of words.

        Coming to the rest of your as always fabulous podcast i finished on my way to work and back again:

        1. Ungrim Baragor and his siblings:
        As Torsten pointed out Baragor was the first King to take the Slayer oath an is the ancestor of the present (with reference to the Warhammer Fantasy timeline) Slayer King Ungrim Ironfist. Ungrim, according to the Lexicanum and the supplement Grudgelore lying here on my bookshelf, is the Dwarfen/Khazalid word for “a dwarf who has not yet fulfilled an important oath” or “an untrustworthy dwarf”. After Baragor took the Slayer oath his descendants took the oath when regency passed to them. As they did with the title of “ungrim”, that became a name for the Slayer Kings. So in “Ungrim Baragor” ungrim is a title the king took, while “Ungrim Ironfist ” was named as Ungrim because of his heritage as being part of the bloodline of the Slayer Kings and taking up the oath after his father’s death. So cardwise you can field the first Slayer King side by side

        2. Dark Elf population:
        Same problem as with the Dark Eldar in 40k: if you start thinking about it both races should have been extinguished by their own culture and way of living (which is based very much on killing and backstabbing each other as you pointed out). They are the bumblebees of the warhammer world: although they should be unable to fly (or survive) they just do.

        1. ArgusDeadeye

          Internet took my post without letting me finish it.

          Addendum to the dwarfen question:
          side by side with present dwarfen heroes. So yes, it seems to me Torsten’s right on this one, the legend seems to be the first Slayer King.

  5. bitva

    Ha, I kinda scratched my head on that one, since the mount is illustrated by Daarken but Mannfred is illustrated by Villeneuve.

    1. bitva

      Bad. Some of the “psyched” comments on the board are almost disturbing, like “I’ll be on my 4th LCG, WOOHOO!!!” and “OMG it’s awesome because it’s 40K,” and “oh, and the mechanics look like they could be interesting, too.”

      If comments like those don’t outright prove that the licensed IP behind LCGs isn’t the main driving factor behind the (at least initial) fandom, I don’t know what is. There will NEVER be a Terrinoth LCG. The closest we’ll get is an April Fool’s joke.

      Now, other things also go into my vote for “bad” on this:

      1) I really, really dislike sci-fi and it’s related settings, so even if it wasn’t 40K and some generic sci-fi game, I still wouldn’t buy it (would try it if a friend had it though).

      2) I really, really dislike 40K, it’s setting (beyond just being a sci-fi setting), the average 40K player, the associated 40K sounds those players MUST MAKE at least once an hour when not even playing the game, and… I’ll spare any readers further details.

      3) Really? Another LCG? Obviously this was a main driving point of Invasion’s cancelation. Are there really that many players that are going to take on a fourth LCG? I would have to imagine that such a player has no other hobbies and can really play that much CCG matches and all the associated deck building and testing. Other folks who keep having to “drop” another LCG whenever a shiny new one comes along. Perhaps this is a good marketing model for FFG: they already made their money on all the packs/boxes those players bought on the LCG that gets dropped, and will continue to get that monthly money, just on a new LCG. Perhaps FFG will rotate an LCG out of development once a year or something, as new ones come out.

      4) This INSTEAD OF Invasion? Now that’s just insulting. Look, it’s even a 2 player game only! Oh, and Chaos has the same general feel as Invasion Chaos? And the Dark Elves, or Eldar, whatever?

      5) Uhm, 7 factions? How about Invasion 2nd Edition, with 10 factions, and an integrated multi-player rule set/game? Yes, that sounds like a much better LCG announcement than sorta-Invasion-40K Conquest.

      Anyone catch the designer/developer responsible for this one?


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